Hey all,
Just got the site through a massive overhaul with a shiny new theme and a new page setup with forums so everyone can share pictures of their Pigeons, ask questions and hopefully get an answer. I’m not sure what to really expect as far as traffic on the forums, so I guess we shall wait and see.
Chris
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I have a C-76……The old Nikki carburetor continues to give me fits, and I cannot find a source for parts. I have “heard” that somebody out there has figured out a decent replacement carb, allegedly Itlalian. Any ideas out there?
BTW Chris, thanks for creating this great site! I bought my C-76 (two-tone sand and copper) about seven or eight years ago. This was just before Mr. Marvin Wuehle passed on, leaving the very small Silver Pigeon community bereft of an effective leader/organizer/parts source. That’s not intended as a slam towards any of the various individuals who valiantly tried to maintain various group lists, websites &c., but the reality was that the lights kind of went out after Marvin died. I am so glad to see that there is still a glimmer of interest out there. The Pigeon is a great scooter – extremely well built (over-built, in fact); nice-looking; and a four-stroke engine to boot…what more can you ask for?
Thanks for stopping by and the nice comments CLW. When I first picked up my C-75 and went hunting for information on what I had gotten myself into it seemed odd that there was not much out there on Pigeons, with the late Mr. Wuehle’s website as the exception. So I built this site in the shadow of Silverpigeons.com as more of a fall back in case something ever happens to Marvin’s site. I hope that it will help provide some service to the Silver Pigeon community, and maybe even turn into a disscussion hub with the new forums. And yeah, Mitsubish sure knew how to build a scooter. I find it hard to believe sometimes the speeds they hit with the power to weight ratio.
Now the carb issue, I have put a Tillotson diaphragm carb on my C-75 just messing around, not sure of what model it was. But since it didn’t have a float it could run on its side to match the intake studs on the Pigeon’s motor. The change from the Nikki was like night and day, the throttle was very very snappy, with no hesitation. It seemed to rev up much quicker also. I never got a chance to try riding it with it on since the clutch on that bike was trashed. I was going to put it on my C-90 but decided to keep it all original since the Nikki on it still seems to work *most* of the time. I’ve been also wanting to try a nice little Mikuniki like this guy
http://www.amazon.com/Mikuni-Carburetor-150cc-200cc-XR200R/dp/B005CXBW1G
The problem there though would be getting it to mount up to the intake. Which, if you made a little adapter plate that bolted to the studs, then had just a small bit of pipe welded to it, you could slip a hose over the pipe on the intake and slip the carb in the other end and hoseclamp it together. The throttle cable would also take a little finagling to mount.
Really though, any 200cc-250cc engines carb should work with a bit of adapting like above. Just watch the jetting to make sure your not running it to lean and it should be fine. I’ll make a picture to better explain what I mean by the adapter when I get a chance.
Very helpful suggestions. I’m familiar with Tillotsons, having wrestled with many in my Cushman phase. I’ve been told that the Nikki carburetor used on Silver Pigeons is quite similar to the old concentric Amal carburetors, and they are indeed quite similar in appearance – but also quite expensive. I’ll take your suggestion and see what I can find on the market.
On Saturday I was able to get the C-76 running for the first time in approximately 5 years. It ran just long enough to get me down a big hill before it lapsed back into its coma. Pushing that monster up that hill and back into the garage was a trial….
Just starting the mechanical resto of my ’59 C-80 (the 125 cc OHV). I’d like to post the pics of the engine work for future reference. An interesting side note: mine runs an original Amal 392.
Just bought a 59 c75 at Portland Indiana meet original and runs road it home about 17 miles it did have a title but I got a bill of sale I was wondering how to get a title any help would be appreciateThanks
How do I jion your form it won’t let me